Pierrebraunia ??

[Herts Mike]

Thank you Marlon - the hint on winter watering is welcome.

Mike.

[Clement]

thanks a lot Marlon very nice pics .

[Trevor]

Thanks for the info Marlon, very much appreciated. Great photo's too. They are a very interesting plant. Now all I have to do is try and get the quarantine folk to let me have one someday...

Thanks again...

[Aloenut]

Hi Marlon,

What about P. brauniorum? Does that grow in completely different conditions?

Thanks
Aloenut

[Marlon Machado]

Aloenut Wrote:
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> What about P. brauniorum? Does that grow in
> completely different conditions?

Hi Frank,

I have not seen Pierrebraunia brauniorum in habitat (actually, nobody other than Pierre Braun and Eddie Esteves Pereira know exactly where this species grow), but although it also grows high in the mountains of northern Minas Gerais, it does not seems to grow in cliffs like P. bahiensis. Other than this, the kind of habitat is not much different - it is the high altitude "campo rupestre" (rocky patches on top of mountains, with very characteristic vegetation).

Cheers,

[Tony H]

Some young seedlings I am growing of Pierrebraunia
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[Marlon Machado]

My friend Cyrill Hunkeler, who is a gardener at the Collection of Succulent Plants of the City of Zurich (ZSS - Zurich Sukkulenten Sammlung), sent me some pictures he took of some of the Pierrebraunia bahiensis specimens that they have at the collection:

One specimen (Herm 307) with short spines:

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Pierrebraunia bahiensis. Photo: Cyrill Hunkeler.

A specimen with very long spines:

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Pierrebraunia bahiensis. Photo: Cyrill Hunkeler.

Close-up of the previous, showing the fruit:

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Pierrebraunia bahiensis. Photo: Cyrill Hunkeler.

Close-up of the flower buds:

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Pierrebraunia bahiensis. Photo: Cyrill Hunkeler.

A few seedlings:

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Pierrebraunia bahiensis. Photo: Cyrill Hunkeler.

Younger seedlings:

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Pierrebraunia bahiensis. Photo: Cyrill Hunkeler.

Cheers,

[Marlon Machado]

Tony H Wrote:
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> Some young seedlings I am growing of
> Pierrebraunia
>

Hi Tony,

I am sorry, the only seedling that could be Pierrebraunia is the one in the back with red spines, the others seem to be seedlings of an Arrojadoa species of the A. dinae group. Even the red-spined one does not look quite right, it is too tall and thin - seedlings of Pierrebraunia at this stage should be more globular (see pics of seedlings in my previous post with Cyrill photographs).

Cheers,

[Tony H]

Hello Marlon,
thankyou for correcting my posting, regarding the seedlings. It is rather embarressing realy, as I bought these seeds from the 2007 seed issue of an extremely well known and trusted seed supplier who I have never had any problems with before, so I had no reason to doubt the identity.
The red spined one is one and a quarter inches tall. They were sown under lights, with bottom heat in feb.2007. But I must admit they definately want to be columner
Thanks Tony

[Herts Mike]

I have a feeling now that My Pierrebraunea from the same source as Tony may be something else. During the year it has slowly become more columnar and is branching from the base.

Mike.